| Echo rebranding JG, or others?(your opinion?) | |
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Should Echo rebrand only JG, or others as well>? | yeah | | 47% | [ 9 ] | NO | | 21% | [ 4 ] | who cares again? | | 32% | [ 6 ] |
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General Connel Admin


Number of posts : 38 Age : 26 Registration date : 2007-02-23
 | Subject: Echo rebranding JG, or others?(your opinion?) Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:37 pm | |
| So do you think that Echo 1 should rebrand JG, or other companies as well?
Persoanally I think Only if they are as High quality as JG is. |
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Luis21 Admin


Number of posts : 10 Age : 25 Localisation : San Diego, California Registration date : 2007-02-23
 | Subject: Re: Echo rebranding JG, or others?(your opinion?) Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:16 pm | |
| I agree. Echo1 should also rebrand from other high quality chinese companies to ensure variety of replicas. |
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Tullamore Private First Class

Number of posts : 35 Registration date : 2007-02-23
 | Subject: Re: Echo rebranding JG, or others?(your opinion?) Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:46 pm | |
| If they rebrand different brands, it might be more difficult to provide customer support, since each gun is different. |
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spence52490 Corporal


Number of posts : 62 Age : 27 Registration date : 2007-02-23
 | Subject: Re: Echo rebranding JG, or others?(your opinion?) Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:32 pm | |
| Leave UTG to rebranding utter crap while Echo 1 gets the goodens. |
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Wonder Private Second Class
Number of posts : 4 Registration date : 2007-02-24
 | Subject: Re: Echo rebranding JG, or others?(your opinion?) Sat Feb 24, 2007 8:22 am | |
| I don't see why they should just stick to JG. It's not like they have a commitment to JG to only use their products. UTG is catching up too. They've got the CM.031 and the M14. |
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crimsonfalcon07 Admin


Number of posts : 86 Registration date : 2007-02-24
 | Subject: Re: Echo rebranding JG, or others?(your opinion?) Tue Mar 06, 2007 2:53 pm | |
| Mod the poll, if you would. I vote for them being able to rebrand other versions as well (AGM, new CYMA, A&K). I wouldn't mind getting a warranty on those  |
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Nate Corporal


Number of posts : 95 Registration date : 2007-04-02
 | Subject: Re: Echo rebranding JG, or others?(your opinion?) Tue Apr 03, 2007 3:54 pm | |
| i dont think they should go w/ utg |
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crimsonfalcon07 Admin


Number of posts : 86 Registration date : 2007-02-24
 | Subject: Re: Echo rebranding JG, or others?(your opinion?) Tue Apr 03, 2007 5:15 pm | |
| - Nate wrote:
- i dont think they should go w/ utg
??? What are you talking about? UTG and Echo 1 are both rebranders, and are competitors. Echo 1 is not going to rebrand UTG rebranded guns. |
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Nate Corporal


Number of posts : 95 Registration date : 2007-04-02
 | Subject: Re: Echo rebranding JG, or others?(your opinion?) Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:00 pm | |
| uhhhh.... just kidding? (oops) |
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Airsoftguy Corporal


Number of posts : 52 Age : 24 Registration date : 2007-06-23
 | Subject: Re: Echo rebranding JG, or others?(your opinion?) Sun Jun 24, 2007 10:39 am | |
| Ok Echo 1 doesn't rebrand guns. This is an Echo 1 forum. So shouldn't every one know that? Just look at the differances! JG: m120 spring. 370-385 fps. Echo 1: m110 spring. 340-355 fps. |
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M4 Master Corporal

Number of posts : 88 Registration date : 2007-06-13
 | Subject: Re: Echo rebranding JG, or others?(your opinion?) Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:06 am | |
| those fps estimates are skewed. Echo 1 does rebrand guns, it's been denied but the evidence in favor is overwhelming. Especially since Echo 1's and JG's come with the exact same manuals, the guns are identical, and now that all the V2s are here they all shoot the same fps. The pay difference is for the warranty. It's kind of like saying here is 30 bucks just in case my gun breaks so I can send it back. But after 30 days, if you got a JG, you have the same exact gun as someone who got the Echo 1. |
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Airsoftguy Corporal


Number of posts : 52 Age : 24 Registration date : 2007-06-23
 | Subject: Re: Echo rebranding JG, or others?(your opinion?) Sun Jun 24, 2007 1:07 pm | |
| - M4 Master wrote:
- those fps estimates are skewed. Echo 1 does rebrand guns, it's been denied but the evidence in favor is overwhelming. Especially since Echo 1's and JG's come with the exact same manuals, the guns are identical, and now that all the V2s are here they all shoot the same fps. The pay difference is for the warranty. It's kind of like saying here is 30 bucks just in case my gun breaks so I can send it back. But after 30 days, if you got a JG, you have the same exact gun as someone who got the Echo 1.
They use differant springs. Oh, and I did not do the fps estimates. I got them from relieable websites such as www.shortyusa.com. |
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M4 Master Corporal

Number of posts : 88 Registration date : 2007-06-13
 | Subject: Re: Echo rebranding JG, or others?(your opinion?) Mon Jun 25, 2007 2:47 pm | |
| shortyusa.com is not the most reliable website for fps estimates. Look through the forums at www.airsoftretreat.com/forums if you want to find out the true stats of a particular gun. Also, Echo 1 is still rebranding guns, whether they put in new springs or not, they will still be rebranding JG's. |
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tommyboy Private Second Class
Number of posts : 8 Registration date : 2007-06-05
 | Subject: Re: Echo rebranding JG, or others?(your opinion?) Mon Jun 25, 2007 2:56 pm | |
| The internals on the Echo 1 guns are different from the JG as well. |
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Airsoftguy Corporal


Number of posts : 52 Age : 24 Registration date : 2007-06-23
 | Subject: Re: Echo rebranding JG, or others?(your opinion?) Mon Jun 25, 2007 3:08 pm | |
| - M4 Master wrote:
- shortyusa.com is not the most reliable website for fps estimates. Look through the forums at www.airsoftretreat.com/forums if you want to find out the true stats of a particular gun.
Also, Echo 1 is still rebranding guns, whether they put in new springs or not, they will still be rebranding JG's.
I believe that shorty uses the fps estimates from the manufacturer, which, in the case of Echo1, gives the minimum fps. Oh, and I am a member of the airsoftretreat forum. edit: Did I tell you about the classic army gears?  |
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Nate Corporal


Number of posts : 95 Registration date : 2007-04-02
 | Subject: Re: Echo rebranding JG, or others?(your opinion?) Mon Jun 25, 2007 5:08 pm | |
| They are not classic army gears! The gears are actually CA which is not classic army. |
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tommyboy Private Second Class
Number of posts : 8 Registration date : 2007-06-05
 | Subject: Re: Echo rebranding JG, or others?(your opinion?) Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:11 pm | |
| So what is CA supposed to mean? |
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M4 Master Corporal

Number of posts : 88 Registration date : 2007-06-13
 | Subject: Re: Echo rebranding JG, or others?(your opinion?) Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:43 am | |
| The JG gears are the same! I own the JG and I have seen them. They are stamped CA. I dont' know if you're still thinking about the old version 1's, because you probably are. Next you'll try to tell me the spring guide is still plastic when they actually changed it to metal.
I'm talking about the new versions and they are identical.
EDIT: So airsoftguy, when you edited your post, did you mean to tell me that only Echo 1's have classic army gears and others have crappy ones? I can assure you they both have high quality gears, and even if the springs are different, ECHO 1 is STILL a rebrand company, and everyone else here knows that. |
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Airsoftguy Corporal


Number of posts : 52 Age : 24 Registration date : 2007-06-23
 | Subject: Re: Echo rebranding JG, or others?(your opinion?) Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:09 am | |
| I have heard that JG has cheap gears, but that was not what I was trying to say. And everyone else knows that Echo 1 just rebrands guns, then everyone else is wrong. |
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M4 Master Corporal

Number of posts : 88 Registration date : 2007-06-13
 | Subject: Re: Echo rebranding JG, or others?(your opinion?) Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:12 pm | |
| alright, since facts will not persuade your opinion, I will leave it with my opinion on the issue this post was made for.
I feel that Echo 1 (The rebrand company) should indeed rebrand more than just JG guns. When they rebrand only JG, we get only a select few products that will actually have warranties. Those warranties Echo 1 gives out are what allows people to have the security they need to buy it so they can review it for us here on these forums!
They should continue to rebrand what they can, because although people will know that they are indeed a rebrand company, they will still be offering a viable service to those who purchase their products, and for that, we should all be grateful. |
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Airsoftguy Corporal


Number of posts : 52 Age : 24 Registration date : 2007-06-23
 | Subject: Re: Echo rebranding JG, or others?(your opinion?) Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:23 pm | |
| I know that Echo 1 may start out with a gun such as a JG, but they upgrade the internals, so it's really not a JG at all. |
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M4 Master Corporal

Number of posts : 88 Registration date : 2007-06-13
 | Subject: Re: Echo rebranding JG, or others?(your opinion?) Fri Jun 29, 2007 2:13 pm | |
| So if I buy a Marui, then I stick in some upgrade parts, it's no longer a Marui, it has now become a "Nick" airsoft gun? That DOES NOT make them a manufacturer, it makes them a rebrand company that puts in some different parts, they still aren't making the guns, but I'm glad you realize that now. |
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Airsoftguy Corporal


Number of posts : 52 Age : 24 Registration date : 2007-06-23
 | Subject: Re: Echo rebranding JG, or others?(your opinion?) Fri Jun 29, 2007 7:18 pm | |
| Oh, so if you take a Marui and pull out all the internals and put is UTG internals it's still a Tokyo Marui? |
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M4 Master Corporal

Number of posts : 88 Registration date : 2007-06-13
 | Subject: Re: Echo rebranding JG, or others?(your opinion?) Sat Jun 30, 2007 7:40 am | |
| In that case you could make an argument to say that it's no longer a TM. However, in the case of Echo 1, all they change is the spring and MAYBE the gears. That is still a JG. If I take out the spring and gears of a Marui, which some people do, to get it shooting around where these JG's do, then it would still be a Marui. Would you call it a Systema just because I put TWO systema parts in it? No. |
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Airsoftguy Corporal


Number of posts : 52 Age : 24 Registration date : 2007-06-23
 | Subject: Re: Echo rebranding JG, or others?(your opinion?) Sat Jun 30, 2007 9:16 am | |
| I do not think that they just put in 2 new parts. I believe they Echo1s have better internals including the spring, gears, piston and gearbox. |
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